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> <channel><title>Christopher Price .net &#187; Pontiac</title> <atom:link href="http://www.christopherprice.net/category/car-automotive/gm/pontiac/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.christopherprice.net</link> <description>Christopher Price tackles the rest of tech.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:10:32 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>My General Motors Protection Plan (GMPP) Already Paying Off</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/my-general-motors-protection-plan-gmpp-already-paying-off-1939.html</link> <comments>http://www.christopherprice.net/my-general-motors-protection-plan-gmpp-already-paying-off-1939.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:07:02 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Car & Automotive]]></category> <category><![CDATA[GM]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Pontiac]]></category> <category><![CDATA[extended warranty]]></category> <category><![CDATA[g6]]></category> <category><![CDATA[general motors]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gm warranty]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gmpp]]></category> <category><![CDATA[hhr]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/?p=1939</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve gotten a lot of traffic by talking about the ins, and outs of extended vehicle warranties. Pretty much the only extended warranties I endorse at this point, are first-party warranties. In this economy, there is just too much uncertainty with third-party providers. I don&#8217;t care about the credit ratings or reliability-ratings of an underwriter&#8230; [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gotten a lot of traffic by talking about the <a
href="http://www.christopherprice.net/stay-away-from-us-fidelis-warrantydirect-is-a-maybe-1325.html">ins, and outs</a> of extended vehicle warranties.</p><p>Pretty much the only extended warranties I endorse at this point, are first-party warranties. In this economy, there is just too much uncertainty with third-party providers. I don&#8217;t care about the credit ratings or reliability-ratings of an underwriter&#8230; because all it takes is for the warranty provider to throttle claims with fraudulent rejections of valid claims.</p><p>Being the <a
href="http://www.bringpontiacback.org/">last Pontiac man</a>, my extended warranty of choice is the General Motors extended warranty, the <a
href="http://www.gmprotectionplan.com/">General Motors Protection Plan</a>, or GMPP. It&#8217;s actually not run by GM anymore, it&#8217;s administered by Ally, formerly GMAC.</p><p><span
id="more-1939"></span></p><p>A lot of people were concerned when GMAC was broken off into Ally that there would no longer be a strong cohesion between GM and Ally Financial regarding things like warranties and good financial terms on new cars. I suspect largely that hasn&#8217;t been an issue because the Treasury Department still owns a majority of both companies, effectively making them one joint investment (via TARPfail).</p><p>My GMPP was for 60 months and 75,000 miles on my G6, and I bought it at 34,000 miles. That is the most miles that are offered on a used car extended warranty from GM.</p><p>There are a couple of good times to buy extended warranties via GMPP, and it depends on what you want from your warranty. If you want the best bang for your buck, the best time to buy a GMPP is within the first 12,000 miles. That is when GMPPs are the cheapest. They get very expensive in the last 1500 to 2000 miles of your warranty.</p><p>You <strong>must</strong> purchase your GMPP warranty while your car is within its original bumper-to-bumper coverage. <em>(There is one exception, and that is for used cars, I&#8217;ll explain in a bit).</em> You <strong>can</strong> purchase a GMPP for a non-GM vehicle, but I only suggest doing this if your local dealer services both that brand and GM. That way, you have people that can work with Ally/GMPP and work with your car under one roof. GMPP can be a lot cheaper than other brand&#8217;s extended warranties.</p><p>Of course, if you buy within the first 12,000 miles, you wind up narrowing the amount of warranty you can purchase. 75,000 miles added to 12,000 miles leaves you with a maximum coverage of 87,000 miles. If you want more coverage than that, you have to purchase at the time the car leaves the dealership brand new. Then <del
datetime="2012-02-07T18:18:13+00:00">GM</del> Ally offers plans up to 100,000 miles for brand new cars with bumper-to-bumper coverage.</p><p>In my opinion, it&#8217;s best to wait. First, if your car gets wrecked in the first three years or 36,000 miles, you will lose a lot of money on the warranty, and pay up front for a feature you may not use. While you can get a refund on the warranty, it winds up being a raw deal.</p><p>In addition, you can save a good grand or two by comparison shopping. My original offer form the dealer was $3,500 for my GMPP. I negotiated them down to $2,500, almost at-cost. How? I got some online quotes. In the end, they knew other GMPP providers, and other dealers, would ink the deal just to meet quotas, and that I would be a happier customer.</p><p>There are only two times you have to pay for dealer markup on a GMPP. One is if you are buying a car brand new, and want the longer term coverage options that are available for new models. The other is if you are buying a used car beyond the bumper to bumper. Both can be rolled into the deal.</p><p>Remember how I said above that there was one exception to the requirement that you must buy a GMPP within the bumper-to-bumper coverage? Now&#8217;s a better time to explain. Any GM dealership can sell a GMPP on a used car on their lot. However, you have to purchase the GMPP at the time of the vehicle&#8217;s sale. You cannot buy a GMPP even a day later.</p><p>You can purchase a GMPP on a used car on the dealer&#8217;s lot up to seven years or 75,000 miles. The layout is pretty much the same, GMPP will offer plans that take the car up to around 110,000 miles. After 110,000, Ally knows that <del
datetime="2012-02-07T18:18:13+00:00">GM</del> all cars start to become unreliable. This is why only the shady companies tend to offer longer extended warranties, they mitigate this typically by refusing to pay on a lot of valid claims.</p><p>And you can extend a GMPP too. This is especially useful if you bought a lot of miles, but haven&#8217;t driven through them. Same as above, you have to extend your GMPP before the car hits seven years or 75,000 miles. Any GM dealer can do this, and you may be able to call Ally directly and work this out with them there too.</p><p>One final thing on GMPP in general. You must, must follow the recommended maintenance schedule for your vehicle, as proscribed in the owner&#8217;s manual. GMPP can, and will, deny your claim on a major repair if you don&#8217;t. For most vehicles, this means getting your coolant flushed by the fifth year, and changing transmission fluid. The vast majority of the maintenance schedule can be done during the complementary inspection done at your oil change. I recommend doing those at a GM dealer to be sure, but you can have the service done by any ASE-certified mechanic, just keep documentation of it.</p><p>I started this lengthy primer on GMPP saying that it&#8217;s already paying off. Within 2,000 miles of leaving bumper-to-bumper coverage on my Pontiac G6, the coolant sensors failed. GMPP paid for the $500 repair, and gave me $166 in free car rental for four days. During those four days I fell in love with the Chevy HHR (Delta I platform and all), but that&#8217;s for another article. In the first 10,000 miles of my GMPP, I&#8217;ve gotten $666 back on my $2,500 investment. At this rate, my warranty will pay for itself before it&#8217;s half used up, and before my standard powertrain coverage even expires.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.christopherprice.net/my-general-motors-protection-plan-gmpp-already-paying-off-1939.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Zeta&#8217;s Future for New GM &#8211; Each Division Gets a RWD Sedan</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/my-zeta-vision-for-new-gm-division-rwd-sedan-1586.html</link> <comments>http://www.christopherprice.net/my-zeta-vision-for-new-gm-division-rwd-sedan-1586.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 04:37:25 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Car & Automotive]]></category> <category><![CDATA[GM]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Pontiac]]></category> <category><![CDATA[alpha]]></category> <category><![CDATA[buick]]></category> <category><![CDATA[camaro]]></category> <category><![CDATA[caprice]]></category> <category><![CDATA[caprice ppv]]></category> <category><![CDATA[chevrolet]]></category> <category><![CDATA[chevy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[ecotec]]></category> <category><![CDATA[g8]]></category> <category><![CDATA[park avenue]]></category> <category><![CDATA[solstice]]></category> <category><![CDATA[zeta]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/?p=1586</guid> <description><![CDATA[Over the past couple of years, I&#8217;ve taken quite a liking to the Zeta platform at General Motors. Designed mostly by Holden in Australia, it&#8217;s an amazing rear-wheel drive platform. In America, we know it as the Pontiac G8, and more recently re-tooled for the Chevy Camaro. After the Pontiac division was deactivated, many thought [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past couple of years, I&#8217;ve taken quite a liking to the Zeta platform at General Motors. Designed mostly by Holden in Australia, it&#8217;s an amazing rear-wheel drive platform. In America, we know it as the Pontiac G8, and more recently re-tooled for the Chevy Camaro.</p><p>After the Pontiac division was deactivated, many thought the Zeta platform was going to be phased out. In fact, Ed Whitacre was quite clear on that when he referred to Zeta as being &#8216;dated&#8217; and obsolete. Originally, GM planned for all future rear-wheel drive platforms to be based on the upcoming Alpha platform.</p><p>However, it appears Whitacre was saying one thing and designing another. Zeta now appears to be undergoing a redesign based on the R&#038;D learned from Alpha, and will share the lighter, more fuel-efficient qualities that Alpha had. That&#8217;s not to say that Zeta really needed a redesign&#8230; in my opinion it blazes past the Chrysler LX and Ford D2C platforms already.</p><p>Now, with talk of both a Buick and Cadillac getting Zeta sedans, things get interesting. Add on top of that Holden testing mounts for the twin-turbocharged Ecotec engine inside the original Zeta (the Commodore VE/VF), and things get really interesting.</p><p>If you haven&#8217;t heard of the twin-turbo Ecotec, it&#8217;s because of poor marketing on GM&#8217;s part. That I4 engine gave the Solstice GXP up to 290 horsepower, helping to make Solstice the best-selling roadster in America. Alpha is a perfect fit for future Solstice replacements, likely a retractable hardtop built in the Solstice image. That car will probably land on Buick in retractable hardtop fashion for ~$35,000. While that&#8217;s $10,000 more than Solstice, it&#8217;s far less than a BMW Z4, with a free retractable hardtop thrown in.</p><p>Deciphering all this information, here&#8217;s how I see things rolling out. The following is based on the engines that GM is testing, and the CAFE standards they will have to accommodate.</p><p><strong>Chevy Caprice</strong> &#8211; Based on the Commodore VE and Pontiac G8, this will be a short-wheelbase version for consumers. It will ship with the twin-turbo Ecotec and an optional V6 (likely the GM LLT Engine, same as Camaro).</p><p><strong>Chevy Caprice PPV</strong> &#8211; Already announced, based on the long-wheelbase Holden Statesman. Same engines as Camaro.</p><p><strong>Buick Grand National / Park Avenue</strong> &#8211; This one could go either way. If it&#8217;s a Grand National, it will probably be a rebadged Commodore. If it&#8217;s a Park Avenue, probably a longer-wheelbase Statesman rebadge. Either way, it will match Caprice PPV with a V6 standard, and optional V8.</p><p><strong>Cadillac ZTS</strong> &#8211; Okay, I came up with the name&#8230; Zeta Touring Sedan. This is where things get interesting. With the ATS and CTS filling the &#8220;low end&#8221; of Cadillac, GM can price this vehicle with a standard V8 engine, and make the ZTS-V their new top dog. 551 horsepower enough to make you forget the Pontiac badge? Probably not, because this will likely be one of GM&#8217;s most expensive vehicles to-date. A ZTS could land for around $50,000 and a ZTS-V could be in the mid $70,000s.</p><p>Again, this is analysis, but not speculation. Holden wouldn&#8217;t be getting the R&#038;D bucks to worry about fuel efficiency this much if there wasn&#8217;t some intent to take these cars to America. And, with three or four engines to chose from, GM can badge engineer in a sensible manner&#8230; free from the likes of Fritz Henderson and their &#8220;not a car guy / not a fan of rebadging&#8221; mentality.</p><p>My one suggestion for GM, follow the lead of Holden. Take the Pontiac badge and make it a premium option for high-end Chevy cars. A $2,000 body kit with an ECM tweak for more horsepower is nearly pure markup for GM. Chevy dealers will have no problem pushing those kind of upsales&#8230; especially with not having to worry about inventory.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.christopherprice.net/my-zeta-vision-for-new-gm-division-rwd-sedan-1586.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>1</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Photo: Civilian Trim for the 2011 Chevy Caprice PPV (The Pontiac You Can&#8217;t Buy)</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/photos-civilian-trim-for-the-2011-chevy-caprice-ppv-the-pontiac-you-cant-buy-1516.html</link> <comments>http://www.christopherprice.net/photos-civilian-trim-for-the-2011-chevy-caprice-ppv-the-pontiac-you-cant-buy-1516.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:50:55 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Car & Automotive]]></category> <category><![CDATA[GM]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Pontiac]]></category> <category><![CDATA[2011]]></category> <category><![CDATA[caprice]]></category> <category><![CDATA[caprice ppv]]></category> <category><![CDATA[chevy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[g8]]></category> <category><![CDATA[holden]]></category> <category><![CDATA[ppv]]></category> <category><![CDATA[statesman]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/?p=1516</guid> <description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s no secret that GM is using the Caprice PPV to gauge and leverage consumer interest in the car. Just like how interest in Pontiac rose at its demise, GM is proudly telling consumers &#8220;you can&#8217;t buy the new Caprice.&#8221; I have suspected from day one (literally), that GM plans to offer the Caprice within [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no secret that GM is using the Caprice PPV to gauge and leverage consumer interest in the car. Just like how interest in Pontiac rose at its demise, GM is proudly telling consumers &#8220;you can&#8217;t buy the new Caprice.&#8221;</p><p>I have suspected from day one (literally), that GM plans to offer the Caprice within a couple of model years after its police-trim launch. This would allow GM to continue to have a RWD, non-luxury sedan, and give Holden a major shot in the arm with production until the Alpha platform is ready.</p><p>And, with that, I&#8217;ll show you the first appearance of the Chevy Caprice PPV&#8230; &#8220;detective unit&#8221; trim. This was originally meant to be an &#8220;undercover&#8221; trim, until GM realized that anyone looking for undercover cops need only look for the one car on the road that civilians cannot buy&#8230; the new Caprice. Realizing that mistake, GM now markets it as a car for detectives, instead of billing it for undercover use (<em>used G8s work great for undercover work in that case</em>).</p><p><center><a
href="http://www.christopherprice.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/chevy-caprice-ppv-detective-trim-should-be-a-pontiac.png"><img
src="http://www.christopherprice.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/chevy-caprice-ppv-detective-trim-should-be-a-pontiac-300x170.png" alt="" title="chevy-caprice-ppv-detective-trim" width="300" height="170" /></a><br
/><em>Click to enlarge&#8230;</em></center></p><p>If only they&#8217;d market it as what it should be; a long-wheelbase Pontiac G8. Hey, Holden sure does over in Australia.</p><p><center><a
href="http://www.christopherprice.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/holden-ss-v-special-edition.png"><img
src="http://www.christopherprice.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/holden-ss-v-special-edition-300x128.png" alt="" title="holden-ss-v-special-edition" width="300" height="128" /></a><br
/><em>Holden Commodore Sportwagon SS V Series Special Edition&#8230; if only American GM would match Australian GM.</em></center></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.christopherprice.net/photos-civilian-trim-for-the-2011-chevy-caprice-ppv-the-pontiac-you-cant-buy-1516.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>1</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Why We&#8217;re Building a Web Site on Pontiac</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/why-were-building-a-web-site-on-pontiac-1458.html</link> <comments>http://www.christopherprice.net/why-were-building-a-web-site-on-pontiac-1458.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 07:41:12 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Pontiac]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Newsroom Network]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/?p=1458</guid> <description><![CDATA[I want to get one thing out of the way, yes, we are testing the waters with car news. And, we will be testing the waters by rocking the boat on Pontiac. Hey, if we can make Sony Ericsson sell 10,000 T608 phones, pushing for 50,000 cars annually shouldn&#8217;t be too hard, right? We&#8217;ve got [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to get one thing out of the way, yes, we are testing the waters with car news. And, we will be testing the waters by rocking the boat on Pontiac. Hey, if we can make Sony Ericsson sell 10,000 T608 phones, pushing for 50,000 cars annually shouldn&#8217;t be too hard, right?</p><p>We&#8217;ve got the car people, we&#8217;ve got the tech people, and we know how to make bad decisions sting enough to reverse them.</p><p>First, after being told by great leaders that GM wouldn&#8217;t be managed by the government, then it was. Then government started telling GM how to act. GM wanted to keep Pontiac a niche brand, and the government said it wasn&#8217;t eco-friendly-small-car-ish enough for &#8220;New GM.&#8221;</p><p>No, I&#8217;m not holding a grudge, can&#8217;t speak for the rest of the staff though. But, we are going to circle the wagons and get Pontiac customers to stay in the GM fold. GM is a good company, it shouldn&#8217;t fall apart because of some really bad decisions in the past. Do we expect Pontiac to come back tomorrow? Nope. But, we do expect to get enough customers backing GM through the rough patch. When GM gets back on its feet, we expect them to sell what their customers want to buy.</p><p>Case-in-point, even six months after being killed off, interest in the Pontiac G8 continues to spike past the Chevy Camaro (<a
href="http://www.google.com/trends?q=chevy+camaro%2Cpontiac+g8">per Google Trends</a>). Granted this was after Bob Lutz commented that the G8 has a chance yet again of becoming a Chevy Caprice. But, it shows that America&#8217;s lone sport car brand needs to fit somewhere in the GM landscape.</p><p>To be honest, I don&#8217;t care too much how GM makes it work, and that&#8217;s a sentiment around the office. The public has come up with a lot of ideas over the past six months that GM hasn&#8217;t answered&#8230; tactily admitting they didn&#8217;t/couldn&#8217;t/were-prohibited from thinking these ideas through. From offering Pontiac as a sport-tuned option, to selling them as a sub-brand of Buick, there are lots of choices there.</p><p>Finally, look at Holden. They&#8217;re selling $1,000 Pontiac options left and right on three of their most popular models. That&#8217;s $1,000 customers in America, the home of Pontiac, would be willing to pony up. The company that invented E-REV technology will, at some point, have to give up on hiding behind fuel economy regulations, and give sport car buyers what they want.</p><p>And we&#8217;ll be doing what we do best; informing while organizing the community to get what customers want.</p><p>ETA? After <a
href="http://www.iconsole.vg/">iConsole</a> Alpha 1.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.christopherprice.net/why-were-building-a-web-site-on-pontiac-1458.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>3</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>IIHS Finally Rates Pontiac G8, Gives Only Partial Results</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/iihs-finally-rates-pontiac-g8-gives-only-partial-result-1368.html</link> <comments>http://www.christopherprice.net/iihs-finally-rates-pontiac-g8-gives-only-partial-result-1368.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:45:57 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Pontiac]]></category> <category><![CDATA[crash]]></category> <category><![CDATA[g6]]></category> <category><![CDATA[g8]]></category> <category><![CDATA[GM]]></category> <category><![CDATA[iihs]]></category> <category><![CDATA[rating]]></category> <category><![CDATA[safety]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/?p=1368</guid> <description><![CDATA[Pontiac and the IIHS haven&#8217;t exactly gotten along very well over the years. Not only has IIHS been a bit unwilling to review Pontiac exclusives like the Solstice, but they&#8217;ve also held out on the exclusive-to-America G8. Well, after doing some digging, we have some results. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety posted rear crash [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pontiac and the IIHS haven&#8217;t exactly gotten along very well over the years. Not only has IIHS been a bit unwilling to review Pontiac exclusives like the Solstice, but they&#8217;ve also held out on the exclusive-to-America G8.</p><p>Well, after doing some digging, we have some results. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety posted rear crash ratings for the G8 on their <a
href="http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/headrestraints.aspx?pontiac">Pontiac rear crash page</a>.</p><p>Unfortunately, these don&#8217;t give the whole picture. The IIHS considers very few cars to be good or even acceptable in a rear-end collision. They have been a bit more liberal in their ratings for SUVs, but that&#8217;s understandable considering the design of an SUV.</p><p>The real problem is that this could leave a bad picture in the mind of people looking for a G8. Not that GM cares really, since they&#8217;re a rare breed. But, since the G8 is in every way safer than a G6, and the G6 does in the end get a Good front and Acceptable side impact rating&#8230; you can rest assured knowing you&#8217;re not less safe in a G8.</p><p>On a side note, I can see why the IIHS would only do rear impact tests. Each test requires killing a G8. There are only 80,000 G8&#8242;s in America. That means paying a lot of money to crash-test a limited car (<em>that never really got a chance to sell in a good economy, but anyways&#8230;</em>). Insurance companies care a lot more about rear-impact tests, because they cause more injuries (whiplash, etc) and insurers are more defensive about them in general.</p><p>It would have been nice though to see the G8 shine in the side-impact tests. Just the added sheet metal versus a G6 could have given it a Good rating.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.christopherprice.net/iihs-finally-rates-pontiac-g8-gives-only-partial-result-1368.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Not A Fan of Rebadging: Holden to Sell Pontiac G8 Limited Edition in Australia</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/not-a-fan-of-rebadging-holden-to-sell-pontiac-g8-limited-edition-in-australia-1315.html</link> <comments>http://www.christopherprice.net/not-a-fan-of-rebadging-holden-to-sell-pontiac-g8-limited-edition-in-australia-1315.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:37:47 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Car & Automotive]]></category> <category><![CDATA[GM]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Pontiac]]></category> <category><![CDATA[commodore]]></category> <category><![CDATA[detroit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[g8]]></category> <category><![CDATA[holden]]></category> <category><![CDATA[ve]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/?p=1315</guid> <description><![CDATA[Apparently GM Holden gets to rebadge while Americans don&#8217;t. The car maker is poised to begin selling the Pontiac G8&#8230; in Australia. The Pontiac G8 saga really couldn&#8217;t get any weirder at this point. The G8 is based on the Commodore VE, which is sold in Australia. Now, Holden will be selling the G8 in [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.christopherprice.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pontiac-g8-sport-truck.jpg"><img
src="http://www.christopherprice.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pontiac-g8-sport-truck-300x146.jpg" alt="pontiac-g8-sport-truck" title="pontiac-g8-sport-truck" width="300" height="146" align="right" /></a>Apparently GM Holden gets to rebadge while Americans don&#8217;t. The car maker is poised to begin selling the Pontiac G8&#8230; in Australia.</p><p>The Pontiac G8 saga really couldn&#8217;t get any weirder at this point. The G8 is based on the Commodore VE, which is sold in Australia. Now, Holden will be selling the G8 in direct competition to its own, essentially identical car. Meanwhile, shipments of the G8 to the United States, have come to an end.</p><p>Meanwhile, GM and the U.S. Government&#8217;s Auto Task Force don&#8217;t find that to be a viable option here. The Pontiac brand is completely badge engineered, with the G3, G5, G6, Torrent, Solstice and G8 all badge engineered on various levels. However, Holden appears to have found a market, for those that want cars in clothing that actually matches their style.</p><p>Unfortunately, GM doesn&#8217;t seem to want to listen to their American customers, who don&#8217;t have the option of buying a Commodore VE from their local dealer (let alone anything else Pontiac in about 12 months). GM Detroit feels you&#8217;ll be fine with a Camaro, Malibu, or something Buick.</p><p>The Pontiac G8 ST will also be released, again only in Australia. The sport truck was supposed to be released in the United States, but was scrapped when the economy declined.</p><p>It is not clear how long Holden will be able to sell Pontiac-branded cars, possibly through 2010 as limited edition units. However, backlash from American executives might kill the plan entirely. Those executives can&#8217;t feel good knowing there are enraged, driven, organized Pontiac supporters&#8230; who are continuing to organize.</p><p>Oh, and in case you were wondering, the pricetag comes to $1,000 Australian to have your Commodore VE order turned into a Pontiac G8 order.</p><p><em>I would love to hear an explanation as to why Pontiac can&#8217;t become a branded option, or a sub-brand of Buick&#8230; while Holden begins direct sales of the Pontiac G8. Why is it good for Australia, but not for America, where Pontiac is headquartered?</em></p><p><strong>Update:</strong> As CarSales.com.au <a
href="http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2009/large-passenger/holden/commodore/exclusive-pontiac-g8-revived-in-australia-16339">reports</a>, Holden does not appear to be allowed to use the Pontiac badge. However, the cars will be identical to G8 units, with all G8 parts and styling. It&#8217;s not clear why Holden is choosing to do this, either to use up remaining G8 supplied parts, or as an internal corporate protest to the discontinuation of the G8 export program. Either way, Holden clearly believes there&#8217;s a market in Australia for what Pontiac had in the United States.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.christopherprice.net/not-a-fan-of-rebadging-holden-to-sell-pontiac-g8-limited-edition-in-australia-1315.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>1</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Will Penske Team Up with GM Holden? Saturn G8 Sport Cars?</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/will-penske-team-up-with-gm-holden-saturn-g8-sport-cars-1305.html</link> <comments>http://www.christopherprice.net/will-penske-team-up-with-gm-holden-saturn-g8-sport-cars-1305.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:37:26 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Car & Automotive]]></category> <category><![CDATA[GM]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Pontiac]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Retail]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cafe]]></category> <category><![CDATA[commodore]]></category> <category><![CDATA[g8]]></category> <category><![CDATA[holden]]></category> <category><![CDATA[penske]]></category> <category><![CDATA[saturn]]></category> <category><![CDATA[ve]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/?p=1305</guid> <description><![CDATA[GM Holden just received a cool $200 million to source other automakers, now that their capacity to sell the Pontiac G8 was undercut by the Auto Task Force. Granted, one of the first announcements out of the Saturn/Penske deal was that the Sky roadster was going to be cut from production immediately. But, we already [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.christopherprice.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pontiac-g8.jpg"><img
src="http://www.christopherprice.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pontiac-g8-300x225.jpg" alt="pontiac-g8" title="pontiac-g8" width="300" height="225" align="right" /></a>GM Holden just received a cool $200 million to source other automakers, now that their capacity to sell the Pontiac G8 was undercut by the Auto Task Force.</p><p>Granted, one of the first announcements out of the Saturn/Penske deal was that the Sky roadster was going to be cut from production immediately. But, we already knew that was coming down, as GM didn&#8217;t want to continue original models for Saturn (at least, until the dust settled). Enter Holden.</p><p>The Commodore VE (aka Pontiac G8) can&#8217;t seem to find a place in GM&#8217;s lineup, due to fuel economy and issues with it taking up a spot in the CAFE standard lineup, which would need to be reserved for a pickup truck or SUV (where GM really makes its money). But, Penske&#8217;s Saturn no longer has such an issue. It&#8217;s not GM. And, it doesn&#8217;t have the same gas-guzzler ratio concerns.</p><p>I expect on the low-end, Penske will use fuel-efficient cars from Korea and, eventually, China. But, they&#8217;ll use the top spots for cars sourced from GM and Holden directly. That would give them sporty drives along with economy drives. With the loss of Pontiac, Penske has a rare opportunity to sell GM Sport cars&#8230; even when GM can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t in the United States.</p><p>Especially with GM Holden saying that the Zeta platform will be replaced with a lighter, more fuel-efficient remix of Zeta, I can&#8217;t see any reason for Penske not to pass on such an opportunity. Let&#8217;s hope that Penske will do what Henderson won&#8217;t, and rebadge a great car so it can be sold here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.christopherprice.net/will-penske-team-up-with-gm-holden-saturn-g8-sport-cars-1305.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>5</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
