Comments on: Comcast Treats M-Card as Two CableCARDs, Bills Accordingly

By: Dieu

Dieu — Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:51:41 +0000

Your information is outdated. ConCast charges $8.95 per month for the use of their multistream cablecard. Damn joke!

By: Christopher Price

Christopher Price — Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:28:18 +0000

RC, first, the FCC actually just changed the rules, MSOs (including Comcast) must provide a self-install option for M-Cards. I’m not sure if Comcast has complied with this rule change yet.

Second, if you return the “free” cable box, the MSO must still give you the option of a free CableCARD for your TiVo. M-Card however is not necessarily free, and thus Comcast has sent a handful (literally) of single CableCARDs to each region, in order to comply with the FCC mandates.

That of course was probably in response to this article, written over two years ago.

By: RC Siebers

RC Siebers — Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:42:55 +0000

My understanding is that a cablecard is the same as a digital cable decoder box under the FCC rules. If you subscribe to comcast digital service, you are entitled to one cable box or m-card included (free) as a part of your monthly TV service fee. Each additional one is extra. The box (not the m-card) allows On Demand movie and TV show playbacks. You are better off to get the cable box and feed the DVR HDMI or component signal unless you need the two tuner stream for simultaneous 2-channel recording. Cable boxes can be picked up and self-installed, but M-cards must be installed by a Comcast tech.

By: G Peterson

G Peterson — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:12:18 +0000

Sure nobody likes to spend money for no reason.

But $1.79 a month? That is peanuts.

By: Brian

Brian — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:44:48 +0000

Do I need to subscribe to digital service to qualify for a free cable card, or is subscribing to analog service enough?

I have a Tivo HD. Which is nice except that I don’t have programming info available for local broadcast channels which are digital and in the clear in my area on Comcast, and I don’t have HD for the cable channels.

So di I have to pay for digital service to get a cable card or will analog service cut it?

By: Christopher Price

Christopher Price — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:51:21 +0000

Just check their open cable rulings that mandated internal CableCARD support inside of all digital tuners… a couple of web searches should turn that up easily.

Unfortunately the FCC site itself is not structured very well, I can’t navigate it properly myself… and that should say enough on its own. The “updates” page on the front is really only meant for passing consumer interest.

What would really be nice is if the FCC didn’t have a PR department that was even more closed than the MSOs themselves. After all, I’m paying a lot more in taxes to support the federal government, than I am my MSO. I’d love to give you a clear answer straight from them on this.

However, if they’re mandating that you be given a digital cable tuner with CableCARD inside of it for no charge, I don’t think the MSO has grounds to then charge for the CableCARD itself. Now, if you already have a digital tuner from your MSO, I could see them arguing that that is the first CableCARD, and charging a nominal fee for subsequent CableCARDs. I still think it’s bogus to impose such a fee, but legally that might be permissible.

By: Jennifer Pamachena

Jennifer Pamachena — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:19:01 +0000

I understand that it is your opinion that the FCC regulations say this…but could you please direct me to the regulation that you are referring to specifically so that I, too, can read it and form my own opinion?

By: Christopher Price

Christopher Price — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:41:30 +0000

And now, following up on earlier posts in regard to the FCC mandate.

What I said in my last comment in regards to FCC policy stands. It is my opinion that you are entitled, based on FCC regulation, to a free CableCARD (or M-Card). The FCC refuses to clarify.

Why? Because the Open Cable initiative by the FCC could easily be circumvented by cable operators otherwise. They could just charge $99/month for a single CableCARD, ensuring that nobody would request one.

Now, you might argue that Cable Operators have a legitimate interest in charging a small fee for the CableCARD. I disagree (and the FCC sure didn’t say so), since Cable Operators have to give digital tuners out for free, with the DTV transition. And, the CO’s certainly can’t argue that a CableCARD is more expensive than an entire digital cable tuner.

By: Christopher Price

Christopher Price — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:37:05 +0000

Actually, M-Cards can only be used on the TiVo HD. They cannot be used on the original, Series 3 TiVo. TiVo blames this limitation on Broadcom, as the original Series 3 units have an older chipset. Broadcom hasn’t updated that chipset, despite telling TiVo that they would.

As to On Demand… sorry, but it just can’t work with the current TiVo generation. This is because On Demand will require tru2way technology, which is the sucessor to CableCARD. And yes, that means that you will have to buy a completely new TiVo just to use On Demand.

Now, you might be crying out that I’m wrong, and that you heard there’s some USB widget on the way to enable On Demand. Sorry, but that isn’t the case.

The USB adapter that is in development will enable CableCARD units (like TiVo HD) to access SDV (switched digital video) channels. Those are channels that use a new compression method, which will enable more HD channels to appear in the future.

If you’re still confused on all this, I would recommend researching tru2way technology online.

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:26:39 +0000

Rob Said…
1. Can the M-card be used on a Series 3 Tivo despite the fact it has two cable card slots?
2, What is the status of two-way cable cards that support On Demand for TIVO owners?

1. Yes it can.
2. TiVo says they’re “working on it” but has no more info.