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> <channel><title>Comments on: Joomla 1.0 to WordPress: Less Painful than Joomla 1.5</title> <atom:link href="http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html</link> <description>Christopher Price tackles the rest of tech.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:01:29 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Christopher Price</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-9441</link> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:41:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-9441</guid> <description>Switching to WordPress sits at one of the top 10 best calls I&#039;ve ever made in online journalism. Zero regrets.
P.S. I never said Joomla wasn&#039;t alive-and-kicking... I&#039;ll defer to the last paragraph of this circa-2007 post. From what I&#039;ve heard, Joomla has worked to improve the migration for its original user base, though Joomla is a shell of what it once was.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switching to WordPress sits at one of the top 10 best calls I&#8217;ve ever made in online journalism. Zero regrets.</p><p>P.S. I never said Joomla wasn&#8217;t alive-and-kicking&#8230; I&#8217;ll defer to the last paragraph of this circa-2007 post. From what I&#8217;ve heard, Joomla has worked to improve the migration for its original user base, though Joomla is a shell of what it once was.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt Hammond</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-9438</link> <dc:creator>Matt Hammond</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:30:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-9438</guid> <description>Funny, 4 years later and Joomla is still alive and kicking WordPress up and down the field...
... unless you just need a blog - then WordPress is a pretty easy way for a &quot;designer&quot; to call themselves a web developer.
Anyway, would be interested in knowing how you&#039;re feeling about the transfer at this point.
-h</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, 4 years later and Joomla is still alive and kicking WordPress up and down the field&#8230;</p><p>&#8230; unless you just need a blog &#8211; then WordPress is a pretty easy way for a &#8220;designer&#8221; to call themselves a web developer.</p><p>Anyway, would be interested in knowing how you&#8217;re feeling about the transfer at this point.<br
/> -h</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr. Capone-e</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-5619</link> <dc:creator>Mr. Capone-e</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:15:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-5619</guid> <description>How long did it take you to write this blog.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long did it take you to write this blog.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brat</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-5343</link> <dc:creator>Brat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-5343</guid> <description>Sorry for the late response. I&#039;ve set up WPMU with BuddyPress on my development server (yes, I&#039;m a bit of a masochist). With some minor glitches (the whole localhost.localdomain issue), I got it all up and running fairly quickly for a total noob. So far, I&#039;m impressed by the potential of this platform, and I was stunned by the sheer mass of plugins that are freely available (even more than the JED).
The only thing right now that is stopping me from full on running from Joomla is converting a critical component I have from Joomla to WP API. Is there some sort of &quot;API Cookbook&quot; out there? I can&#039;t believe I&#039;m the only one who is trying to do this.
*sigh* - all of this because of lack of backwards compatibility (and NO, Legacy Mode DOES NOT work very well, even for 1.0 extensions that don&#039;t have errors, especially if your solution involves a component AND mambot).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the late response. I&#8217;ve set up WPMU with BuddyPress on my development server (yes, I&#8217;m a bit of a masochist). With some minor glitches (the whole localhost.localdomain issue), I got it all up and running fairly quickly for a total noob. So far, I&#8217;m impressed by the potential of this platform, and I was stunned by the sheer mass of plugins that are freely available (even more than the JED).</p><p>The only thing right now that is stopping me from full on running from Joomla is converting a critical component I have from Joomla to WP API. Is there some sort of &#8220;API Cookbook&#8221; out there? I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m the only one who is trying to do this.</p><p>*sigh* &#8211; all of this because of lack of backwards compatibility (and NO, Legacy Mode DOES NOT work very well, even for 1.0 extensions that don&#8217;t have errors, especially if your solution involves a component AND mambot).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christopher Price</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-5327</link> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:04:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-5327</guid> <description>WPMU is good, but you should probably get the hang of WordPress first. At MechaWorks, we have over a dozen WordPress installs, and they&#039;re all easy to manage separately.
The good news is that WPMU and WordPress proper are set to merge eventually... so no matter which you start with, you&#039;ll be on the same platform. And, unlike Joomla, Automattic leaves no blog behind. Sorry, couldn&#039;t resist.
In terms of functionality, there&#039;s very little that WordPress extensions can&#039;t do, compared to Joomla. Of course, the API is completely different, so your extensions will need considerable re-writing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WPMU is good, but you should probably get the hang of WordPress first. At MechaWorks, we have over a dozen WordPress installs, and they&#8217;re all easy to manage separately.</p><p>The good news is that WPMU and WordPress proper are set to merge eventually&#8230; so no matter which you start with, you&#8217;ll be on the same platform. And, unlike Joomla, Automattic leaves no blog behind. Sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist.</p><p>In terms of functionality, there&#8217;s very little that WordPress extensions can&#8217;t do, compared to Joomla. Of course, the API is completely different, so your extensions will need considerable re-writing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brat</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-5324</link> <dc:creator>Brat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:56:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-5324</guid> <description>I&#039;m a Joomla 1.0 site owner who has been on the receiving end of &quot;the finger&quot;. :)
I am relieved to see that I&#039;m not the only one who is coming to this conclusion regarding the project overall. The site I am about to deploy cannot easily migrate to J!1.5 due to the sheer number of custom or customized extensions that the site is using. Ironically enough, I don&#039;t really use Joomla for the content, but for the framework (especially the plugin architecture).
I&#039;ve been researching alternatives, and, for my near-future projects, WordPress MU with BuddyPress is lookin&#039; REALLY good. Anyone have experience with WPMU and BuddyPress? Also, I have Joomla extensions that would need to be reprogrammed in WordPress. Anyone have experience doing this? What&#039;s it like? Thanks!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Joomla 1.0 site owner who has been on the receiving end of &#8220;the finger&#8221;. :)</p><p>I am relieved to see that I&#8217;m not the only one who is coming to this conclusion regarding the project overall. The site I am about to deploy cannot easily migrate to J!1.5 due to the sheer number of custom or customized extensions that the site is using. Ironically enough, I don&#8217;t really use Joomla for the content, but for the framework (especially the plugin architecture).</p><p>I&#8217;ve been researching alternatives, and, for my near-future projects, WordPress MU with BuddyPress is lookin&#8217; REALLY good. Anyone have experience with WPMU and BuddyPress? Also, I have Joomla extensions that would need to be reprogrammed in WordPress. Anyone have experience doing this? What&#8217;s it like? Thanks!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christopher Price</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-5096</link> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-5096</guid> <description>I don&#039;t really think it&#039;s necessary to nit pick about which CMS is &quot;best&quot;. There are some people that still love their PHP-Nuke derrivatives.
However, if Joomla can&#039;t keep their userbase on a single platform, it will hurt them in the long run, and they will lose any clear superiority with the passage of time.
The fact that Joomla has been &quot;hitting its stride&quot; while &quot;giving the finger&quot; to 1.0 users, pretty much confirms what I wrote at the time.
Would Apple be where it is today, if they had told OS 9 users to jump off a cliff? Imagine the slow speed that OS X would have been adopted... and imagine how Apple wouldn&#039;t have had the resources to build iPhone, iPod touch, Apple TV, and all the other crazy OS X-based devices in the pipeline.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really think it&#8217;s necessary to nit pick about which CMS is &#8220;best&#8221;. There are some people that still love their PHP-Nuke derrivatives.</p><p>However, if Joomla can&#8217;t keep their userbase on a single platform, it will hurt them in the long run, and they will lose any clear superiority with the passage of time.</p><p>The fact that Joomla has been &#8220;hitting its stride&#8221; while &#8220;giving the finger&#8221; to 1.0 users, pretty much confirms what I wrote at the time.</p><p>Would Apple be where it is today, if they had told OS 9 users to jump off a cliff? Imagine the slow speed that OS X would have been adopted&#8230; and imagine how Apple wouldn&#8217;t have had the resources to build iPhone, iPod touch, Apple TV, and all the other crazy OS X-based devices in the pipeline.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chad</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-5092</link> <dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:28:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-5092</guid> <description>Chris,
I understand your angst at Joomla at least at the time of your post. At the time it was written, it looked like some of your fears about Joomla 1.5 as a development disaster were justified, even if they came to nothing in retrospect.
However, I can tell you as a fellow web developer who uses both Joomla and Wordpress, that Joomla is a superior solution in terms of flexibility. (I say that with all due respect to WP, as I love that community as well) And now that &quot;time has told,&quot; Joomla 1.5 is finally hitting it&#039;s stride with more great features on the way. As one commenter stated, it was &quot;worth the wait.&quot;
There are two things I&#039;d like to see with regard to Joomla. (1) an easy update tool from 1.0 to 1.5, and (2) an easy way to convert WP to Joomla without losing all my links. But as you know, very few things in this business come easy. There are a lot of 1.0 sites out there and without an easy way to upgrade they will likely remain that way. Such a proposition is a bit scary in lieu of vulnerabilities which have now been found in those earlier releases and which are well documented.
Anyway, thanks for the salient commentary and good luck in your future endeavors.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br
/> I understand your angst at Joomla at least at the time of your post. At the time it was written, it looked like some of your fears about Joomla 1.5 as a development disaster were justified, even if they came to nothing in retrospect.</p><p>However, I can tell you as a fellow web developer who uses both Joomla and WordPress, that Joomla is a superior solution in terms of flexibility. (I say that with all due respect to WP, as I love that community as well) And now that &#8220;time has told,&#8221; Joomla 1.5 is finally hitting it&#8217;s stride with more great features on the way. As one commenter stated, it was &#8220;worth the wait.&#8221;</p><p>There are two things I&#8217;d like to see with regard to Joomla. (1) an easy update tool from 1.0 to 1.5, and (2) an easy way to convert WP to Joomla without losing all my links. But as you know, very few things in this business come easy. There are a lot of 1.0 sites out there and without an easy way to upgrade they will likely remain that way. Such a proposition is a bit scary in lieu of vulnerabilities which have now been found in those earlier releases and which are well documented.</p><p>Anyway, thanks for the salient commentary and good luck in your future endeavors.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christopher Price</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-1757</link> <dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-1757</guid> <description>Well, at PhoneNews.com, we never migrated our userbase back into WordPress. We had Joomla and IP.Board in-sync with one-another. Since switching to WordPress, the users are loaded into the forums, and we have disabled the need for a login on the WordPress-side.
What we&#039;re waiting for is IP.Converge to allow for cross-login between WordPress and IP.Board, but it isn&#039;t really a priority. We don&#039;t have a need for logins right now over there.
A JomComment migration path would be nice, the problem though is that it would have to be integrated into the original migration script (or, at the least, the original script would have to be updated to match article-id across both versions). Right now, the migration script doesn&#039;t line up article IDs.
Also, 301 redirects are a royal pain. At PhoneNews.com, we wrote over 1,000 by hand. We&#039;ve held off on writing the other 1,200 because of low SEO value. Some day I might right them just for the sake of accomplishment... Joomla still gives me a headache when I remember it :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at PhoneNews.com, we never migrated our userbase back into WordPress. We had Joomla and IP.Board in-sync with one-another. Since switching to WordPress, the users are loaded into the forums, and we have disabled the need for a login on the WordPress-side.</p><p>What we&#8217;re waiting for is IP.Converge to allow for cross-login between WordPress and IP.Board, but it isn&#8217;t really a priority. We don&#8217;t have a need for logins right now over there.</p><p>A JomComment migration path would be nice, the problem though is that it would have to be integrated into the original migration script (or, at the least, the original script would have to be updated to match article-id across both versions). Right now, the migration script doesn&#8217;t line up article IDs.</p><p>Also, 301 redirects are a royal pain. At PhoneNews.com, we wrote over 1,000 by hand. We&#8217;ve held off on writing the other 1,200 because of low SEO value. Some day I might right them just for the sake of accomplishment&#8230; Joomla still gives me a headache when I remember it :)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan</title><link>http://www.christopherprice.net/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15-73.html/comment-page-1#comment-1756</link> <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:42:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.christopherprice.net/2007/10/31/joomla-10-to-wordpress-less-painful-than-joomla-15/#comment-1756</guid> <description>The link for the script is http://rangit.com/software/6-steps-how-to-migrate-from-joomla-to-wordpress/
So, you think installing a forum, converting my joomla users to it, then &quot;uploading&quot; those users to wordpress by way of a phpbb bridge to wordpress?
I guess comments will be a problem, but I&#039;m willing to sacrifice them for the overall improvement of my site...  There&#039;s gotta be some simple way to migrate those too, perhaps with NAVCAT or something of that nature...  I will have to look into the db structure of JOM_COMMENT for that...
Thanks for the quick reply Chris!
Dan</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link for the script is <a
href="http://rangit.com/software/6-steps-how-to-migrate-from-joomla-to-wordpress/" rel="nofollow">http://rangit.com/software/6-steps-how-to-migrate-from-joomla-to-wordpress/</a></p><p>So, you think installing a forum, converting my joomla users to it, then &#8220;uploading&#8221; those users to wordpress by way of a phpbb bridge to wordpress?</p><p>I guess comments will be a problem, but I&#8217;m willing to sacrifice them for the overall improvement of my site&#8230;  There&#8217;s gotta be some simple way to migrate those too, perhaps with NAVCAT or something of that nature&#8230;  I will have to look into the db structure of JOM_COMMENT for that&#8230;</p><p>Thanks for the quick reply Chris!</p><p>Dan</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
