In my spare time, I’ve been tinkering with GM radios. This is the result of my research, which I’ve written up into this semi-whitepaper to share. In short, this article will tell you everything you need to know about adding a factory USB port to your mid-2000s GM car.
This article is long. I apologize. There’s a lot of info to share and I have to assume all you know about your car’s stereo is where the CD goes. I have tried to summarize the what-you-need-to-know near the bottom.
In what I call the Lutz/Wagoner Era of General Motors, GM did a lot right. One thing they got right was to unify radios across as many cars as possible. Buick’s and Cadillac’s got largely left behind in this process, for several reasons, but for the first time most Chevrolet, Opel, Holden, and Pontiac cars had the same radios shared.
This article applies to Delta, Epsilon, and Kappa-class cars primarily. After reports from others, I’m only recommending 2007 and later model year cars. Some 2006 cars just have a Body Control Module (BCM) that is just too old. Similar-looking radios are in other cars, but are technically different on the inside. This article applies to you if you have one of the following cars (or its platform twins):
Pontiac G6 (2009.5 & 2010 Model Years Only)*
Saturn Ion (2006+ Model Years Only)*
* The G6 did not get the bowtie radio until the 2009.5 & 2010 redesign. Similarly, Ion models before 2006 are a no-go. Earlier models use an older GMLAN and I do not recommend this process for those cars.
To do this modification (adding a USB port radio) you need to have either RPO US8 or US9 on your car. You can confirm this by looking in the glove box at the RPO code label. It’s a silver sticker that lists all the features/options on your car. This is detailed more below.
Why add a USB port radio to my car?
Simple, it works very well if you have a modern iPhone, iPad, iPod touch / iOS 8 device. App audio transmits flawlessly over the USB port. And, some apps will even get on-screen display interactivity, partly thanks to some APIs that Apple opened up for a few app developers.
While today Apple is focused on CarPlay, apps like Pandora and iHeartRadio will let you scroll through the radio interface on the GM USB port radio – even though iOS didn’t really exist when these radios were built. Apple worked hard to “reach back” and support these cars. This makes it more attractive than many aftermarket radios – you get apps that work well and audio that is digital from end-to-end.
Additionally, a USB port radio lets you do stuff with perfect audio fidelity. From plugging in your Android phone, to quickly coping that new song onto a flash drive. Having a USB port on your GM radio gives you tight integration and adds value to your car.
Note that it isn’t totally future-proof. Siri Eyes-free won’t work, for example. Siri will pump through the speakers, but you’ll need to use the iOS device’s microphone and home button to trigger.
What About PAL?
This section is long – basically I don’t suggest using PAL if at all possible. The only benefit to PAL is that it will work with older iPod’s with FireWire in addition to USB-based iOS devices.
GM did offer a kit for cars that did not come with a USB port. It’s called a PAL, or Personal Audio Link. It adds iPod integration to the radio’s in non-USB port cars listed above.
The problem with this kit is two-fold. One, it was designed for use with iPod – it’s old. It is wired to go in the glovebox. The idea is you would stash your $400 iPod in the glovebox and control it using the radio and steering-wheel.
Of course, this is not ideal if you have an iPhone, and want to say, take a phone call. The PAL will not interface with iPhone voice commands, route phone calls, or allow you to use the microphone in the OnStar system (neither will a USB port radio, for that matter). For that, you need a GM Bluetooth integration – which GM will tell you that you can’t do… but you can.
Second, the PALs are very buggy. They were made by a company called Mediatronics, that seemed to have about as many financial issues as GM at the time. They shared some firmware bits with the radio (obviously) but they are very buggy. The first-generation models never got a firmware update, and are temperamental. They crash the radio. They fire up even when an iPod isn’t present.
Additionally, you don’t get a USB port. So Android or flash drives are not usable with PAL. But, since an iPhone 4S or iPod touch with iOS 8 is quite cheap, it’s an option to consider. And yes, PAL works with Lightning port adapters as well as voltage converters. It also will route app audio from iOS 8 apps.
If you do go the PAL route – get the second-generation unit for these cars 22754163 rather than the first-generation (19166154 or 19201522, depending on the model of your car).
No promises, but the second-gen unit will likely work with your car, and work much better too. Any other GM PAL part number (that I’m aware of) applies to some other car (as in, Class 2 data bus vehicle) – like the Corvette C6 or a GM SUV.
Another nice feature of the second-gen PAL is that it has an additional RCA audio out set of jacks on the side. This is nice because you can more easily add an aftermarket Bluetooth integration. Using a cheap third-party A2DP microphone kit, you can have it paired to your car… and the car will then automatically switch from iPod mode for music, to the Bluetooth link for an incoming call. You just have to route the A2DP adapter and microphone somewhere appropriate in the car.
Still though, I only suggest PAL if you cannot add a USB port radio to your car. It requires the same amount of teardown and the same amount of effort (if not a little more) to install an inferior product. Only go with a PAL if you can’t do the USB radio – and that’s true sometimes, see below for more.
Why not use an aftermarket radio?
Simple – they cause problems. GM cars today are very advanced. OnStar is the biggest feature you may lose (though some do have a GMLAN adapter to work properly). Really, the reason I avoid them is that people run into power-drain and other issues.
If you’re going to get an aftermarket radio, it’ll cost a lot more. Adding a GM USB Port radio will cost you under $150 in parts. It’s one single part. It doesn’t involve speaker re-wiring, and it works with the amplifier and speakers in your car perfectly – if done properly. It’s pre-tuned, pre-calibrated, in other words.
Finally, resale value. When I see aftermarket stereos, I get concerned. Every time I’ve bought one, something was done improperly or corner-cutting and I would have been happier had they just left the speakers alone. All about that bass? In my book, it means more trouble.
I think aftermarket radios for mid-2000s cars will become a lot more compelling when CarPlay and Android Auto enter the mix. But that may be a few years before I seriously recommend one.
Getting started – know what you’ve got.
GM cars listed at the start of this article had one of four radios – U1C, US8, US9, and UUI. The easiest way to check is to look at the RPO code sticker in your glovebox. It will have one of those four.
The USB radio bears the GM RPO code UUI. That’s the radio we’re going to upgrade to!
If you have a U1C radio, then I have some bad news for you – you got the wrong one. On Ion, the U1C means you have cheaper speakers that aren’t tuned to the more premium radios. You may get by on the Saturn Sky or Aura – I’ve heard that some of their U1C setups did use the same speakers as the US8 radio.
If you have a U1C in an Ion, you can upgrade very cheaply your speakers and get a massive music improvement. Wreckers typically have the 2-wire speakers for dirt cheap, and everyone that has upgraded the GM speakers has had massive improvement – for far less than the cost of an aftermarket stereo setup.
US8 typically had the “uplevel” six speaker system, which is in-between U1C and US9/UUI. It has two-wire speakers and typically a six-speaker configuration lacking the rear two speakers. Also the Monsoon amplifier is not present.
US9 cars typically had the Monsoon 8-speaker system, but not always. UUI radios almost always had the Monsoon 8-speaker system, except in some cases on fleet orders or when GM was low on parts. This is because half the UUI radios will only work on Monsoon 8-speaker systems (I’ll tell you how to get the right UUI radio in the next section).
Another important aside – if you have a US8 radio, you may have a Monsoon amplifier that is sitting unused. The manufacturing plants were sometimes under pressure to churn out cars quickly, so they affixed Monsoon amplifiers to cars even before the interior was configured. That means you may have a Monsoon amp sitting in your car, that’s simply disconnected. Seriously! I’ve seen it.
You can hook that up and use it even without the additional speakers sometimes – especially if the wiring harness is present. That all said, I wouldn’t bother deploying a Monsoon if you don’t have one already.
The tale of two UUI’s (Well, More Like 15)
This section has the most important bit that I discovered… through trial and error.
GM had two part suppliers for its UUI (USB port) radio – Delphi and Panasonic. In general, Delphi did a much better job than Panasonic. Higher quality knobs and buttons, better overall build quality.
Except in firmware. Panasonic’s from my testing will detect if you don’t have a Monsoon amp – saving you a lot of trouble if you don’t have the Monsoon speaker system.
Good time to note – the radios are color-schemed. So there are something like 15 different UUI radio part numbers. A Delphi and a Panasonic, plus one for each color scheme (Chevy, Pontiac, Saturn, etc all had different LED colors – Blue, Red, and Amber, respectively).
Try to buy the one that matches your car, but I encourage you to go with the Delphi if you have Monsoon and a Panasonic if you do not have Monsoon.
Some UUI radio’s are drying up in supply. There are no more UUI radios on the market for the Saturn Sky, even used. GM is sold out too. They are quite rare, and command quite a premium.
Where to find a UUI radio? Well, GM is an expensive first start. They still have UUI radios for most cars – and you won’t have to pay your dealership to VIN-recode it (see next section)… so it may actually be a wash in terms of cost.
Next step is eBay, where you’ll definitely be able to find a UUI radio, but again – you probably want the one that color-matches your car’s interior. I suggest car-part.com for that. They will let you search for UUI radios, but you may have to input a 2009+ model for your car. Most of car-part.com’s suppliers are dismantlers, so be sure to confirm that the radio isn’t covered in eight layers of dust with the vendor you wind up buying from. You can get a UUI radio for around $130 going this route.
Oh, and don’t buy a UUI radio from a GM SUV or truck. The USB port on those was routed via the GMLAN to the armrest- you need it on the radio faceplate.
Now, I’m sure you’re asking the big question – How can I tell a Delphi radio apart from a Panasonic radio? After all, the Panasonic UUI radios work with both 6-speaker and 8-speaker cars, whereas the Delphi radios have better build quality… but only work with the 8-speaker Monsoon setups.
Thanks to feedback from a forum member (credited in the update history), there’s an easy way to tell. If the USB port is to the left of the giant power button, then it’s a Delphi-bult radio. If the USB port is to the far right of the power button, then it was built by Panasonic.
Okay, my brain hurts reading all of this. What of all the above do I need to know?
I assure you sorting all this out hurt even more. In sum, if you have RPO US8 or US9 on one of the cars listed in the top of the article, you can do this modification.
If you have a Monsoon amplifier, you can use just about any UUI radio with a USB port on it.
If you don’t have a Monsoon amplifier, you will need to get a UUI radio made by Panasonic with a USB port on it.
Panasonic-built radios have the USB port to the right of the power button. Delphi units have the USB port to the left of the giant power button. If the radio doesn’t have a USB port on it, don’t buy it, even if it has a UUI model (those are for SUVs/Trucks).
Keep in mind that each GM brand has a different color scheme. I decided to mix them up for fun, now my Pontiac G6 has a radio with Saturn’s amber LED colors.
I also saved $100 compared to Panasonic-built radios with a Pontiac color scheme (those are quite rare).
Setting it up.
Getting the UUI radio installed is as simple as following the replacement teardown for your car. YouTube has step-by-steps for nearly all these cars.
If you bought a used radio, the radio will not start until you get it unlocked (recoded to the VIN of your car). You have to go to a dealership for that. They will charge anywhere from $25 to $150 to do this. It only takes five minutes with a GM Tech 2 service tool. I would walk away from any dealer that wants more than $75 to do it… they’re overcharging. Try to get them down to $25. It literally takes five minutes.
I have upgraded my 2009.5 Pontiac G6 from a US8 radio (without Monsoon) to a Panasonic-built UUI radio from a Saturn Aura. Also my Saturn Sky’s US9 radio (with Monsoon) recently failed and is about to be upgraded with a UUI radio from a Pontiac Solstice. Good luck!
Update: Article has been updated to better ID Panasonic-built GM radios from Delphi-built ones. Thanks to this poster for that tidbit.
I have a US9 radio (according to the sticker in my glove box – it is the six disc one) but I’m not sure if I have a Monsoon amplifier. It sounds like I may not. How can I check?
The US9 is interesting in that it was at times offered with both “uplevel” (6-speaker) and Monsoon (8-speaker with amp).
UQ3 was the RPO code for Monsoon on most cars. Check your sticker in the glove box for that.
And for reference, UZ6 was typically the 6-speaker setup, which was typically paired with US8 (but as you’ve noted, sometimes was offered with US9 6-disc radios too).
It’s really interesting how the US9 radios could be coded to work with either speaker system, as can the Panasonic UUI’s, but the Delphi UUI’s will only work properly with the UQ3/Monsoon speakers.
An anonymous tipster sent in that Panasonic radios were used on Malibu, HHR, Aura, Solstice and Sky while Delphi radios were used on Cobalt, G5, G6, and Ion.
It’s possible that multiple vendors were sourced though, so I would still use the left/right side of the USB port (as outlined above) to differentiate a Delphi from a Panasonic, rather than just by going on which vehicle the UUI radio came from.
Cool stuff. Pre-2009 faceplates can be swapped with UUI radios.
What that means is that you can buy a Chevy UUI, and swap the faceplate with an older US8/US9 Panasonic radio… The connector on the faceplate panel is identical is identical. But the faceplate being grafted onto the UUI has to be from a Panasonic and it has to be pre-2009.
When you do this, you will have to relocate the USB riser. It’s super easy with a dremel. You can move the port inside the box, then run a USB extension cable out the back of the box… To the front of your car.
I did this with my Solstice GXP Coupe, and I was able to retain my Pontiac LED colors. My donor UUI was from a HHR. The USB extension cord routes through the drive train tunnel… Leaving me with a USB port for my iPhone right in arms reach.
If you switch the faceplate from a HHR/Malibu UUI Panasonic RADIO that has USB on the right and aux on the left with one from a pre 2009 radio without usb, but the aux on the right – how do you switch the side the aux is on?
If I remember right (and I haven’t done this in a couple years) but the auxiliary audio is routed through the pogo pin connectors on the faceplate.
I’ve received a report from a 2006MY Chevy HHR owner that could not get their radio unlocked.
As a result, I’ve updated this to note that 2006 model year (and earlier) cars should proceed with caution. The user claimed that the dealership couldn’t unlock the radio with a Tech 2 tool.
It’s possible 2006-and-earlier GMLAN versions (in the BCM) won’t talk to USB port radios… it may vary from one vehicle model to the next.
This is a really great article. Thanks for all your work. I have one question. I have a 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP with the Monsoon system (US9 & UQ3). The one feature that I really like is the speed-sensitive volume adjustment. With the top down, it saves a lot of turning the volume up and down. Will any of the USB radios preserve this function?
My understanding is that all UUI’s have speed-sensitive volume controls. There may be some minor calibration differences, but you have the high/medium/low controls to adjust for that.
Speed-sensing volume works regardless of input – so if it works on XM, it’ll work in iPod/iPhone USB mode.
It’s a good point to note that you may need to adjust fade/balance/door-chime/speed-volume/bass/treble to compensate for your Solstice/Sky speakers being different than the donor vehicle. All of these are in Menu or the Music key.
For example, I deployed a 2010 Malibu UUI in a Saturn Sky recently, and had to shift the fade more to the front speakers, as it was calibrated assuming much more powerful rear speakers in the Malibu that it came out of.
I need to add a note about door chimes. You can adjust those by holding the sixth preset key when the radio is off. This only works on Panasonic radios (you really should only use those on a Solstice or Sky). Hold down the key for 5 seconds, and you can adjust door chime radio.
Christopher, thank you for the additional information. I appreciate it!
Christopher, sorry for the additional questions, but why do you recommend only the Panasonic-built radios for the Solstice and Sky? I understood your point in the main article that the Panasonic radios work better if you don’t have Monsoon, but I have Monsoon.
You also mentioned the door chimes, and that holding the sixth preset key to adjust the door chimes only works on the Panasonic radios. Does that mean that there’s no way to adjust the door chimes on the Delphi? With the Delphi in a Solstice or Sky, would there be no door chimes?
My main issue is that the new radios I’m finding for sale online have the USB port on the left, indicating they are Delphi. Are there any particular models and years that you recommend searching to find a Panasonic?
Thanks again for your help!
I have a 2007 Saturn aura with a us9 radio. What radio do i need with the usb. Also I do have an factory amplifier.
@Vincent – Because Panasonic radios are best matched to the Delta class cars. Also they may have firmware options that can detect when the Monsoon amplifier is missing, whereas Delphi’s do not.
This is because the Aura/Malibu/HHR were later sold to fleets with the USB port radio, and no Monsoon amplifier. It appears that was intentional by GM.
There is no way to adjust door chime volume on Delphi radios after 2009, including all Delphi USB port radios. GM even posted a tech note to dealers cautioning about this.
There are many more Delphi’s than Panasonic’s. Try searching for HHR or Malibu radios. HHR radios with USB ports are all Panasonic, so are Malibu’s. The faceplate will be different. Aura UUI’s are the best match for the Sky, since the LEDs will match perfectly. Solstice UUI’s are still in stock at GM – but a steep $240.
If you have a Saturn Sky, I know Car-Part.com regularly has UUI Aura radios. Follow the steps in my next comment to search that site properly.
@Maurice – You need the USB port radio from another Saturn Aura. The Aura UUI radio is the best radio for your Aura. Search for Saturn Aura radios until you find one. Car-Part.com also has them in-stock.
Just search for Saturn Aura radios on car-part.com and it will give you an option to select the radio model. Select UUI when asked.
Christopher, really informative article. I bought a used 2010 Chevy Cobalt with the Pioneer sound system (UQ3) and the previous owner swapped the radio with an aftermarket. I have been trying to figure out what part number radio to get so that I can get the steering controls and Bluetooth to work ( UK3 and UPF from my understanding). The sticker says I had a UUI radio (before the previous owner swaped it out). Do I need a particular UUI radio (based on the part number from a dealership) or will any (from any other vehicle that has a UUI radio) work? Even different year Chevy Cobalts (2009 and 2010) have different part numbers.
Assuming that the speaker system and Pioneer amp weren’t modified, then I would use a Delphi UUI from a Cobalt. I would try to match model years, but I think the main difference was paint/trim between ’09 and ’10.
My concern with the Cobalts has always been that the Pioneer amplifier and speakers had different calibrations – basically, the firmware is tweaked/calibrated for that unique speaker setup.
It’s one of the reasons I think the Panasonics are so much more compatible with other cars. Those radios were never put in a car other than the standard GM setup. I mean, the Saturn Aura did have a Bose stereo apparently… but looking at the Aura’s amplifier, it looks like a debadged GM/Monsoon amp to me.
Hi Christopher, once again a lot of research and work put into this article. Thanks..
My question is …. I have the 2008 Suburban no Bluetooth ,no USB.. what should I look for on the RPO to determine if I can swap the radio for one with USB ?
I am still hunting for a Bluetooth VCIM. But at the same time I have inquired with Onstar that since I want to activate their service I need to upgrade the VCIM. If the upgrade from them will include Bluetooth I will most likely get GM to do it . they quoted me just a bit higher for the upgrade than what i can get a used VCIM for . But if i change the radio to one with a USB first i will get them to program it at the same time
As to the radio, my guess is that it would be part 20934593. You would have to run a USB cable out the back of the center stack – as truck/SUV GM radios of that era did not put the USB port on the face plate. Instead they ran it through the back of the car to the center console.
The good news is that it’s just a standard mini-USB to USB cable. Just get a 6-foot cable and you can run it anywhere in the car.
No promises, haven’t tested.
Did your Suburban come with OnStar? I’m confused why OnStar quoted you a new VCIM, they aren’t supposed to do that. The 2005-2006 VCIMs sometimes need to be upgraded, as they were analog, digital-ready. I think they misquoted you for one of those, if you really have an ’08 Suburban.
2008 Chevrolet Suburban
Clear the field to enter a new VIN
Your vehicle requires, and is eligible for, a hardware upgrade. The cost of your upgrade, including installation, will be $360*. (No payment is needed at this time.) Once your hardware is installed, you may choose to purchase either the OnStar Guidance, Security or Protection service plan. Your OnStar Advisor can provide details. (If you’ve received another communication from OnStar containing a different offer, that offer is still valid until December 31, 2016.)
It is a 2008 Suburban LTZ came with onstar and XMRadio
this is taken direct from the onstar website .The 360 is in Canadian $
I think that’s an error. Almost certain that was meant for ’05-06 cars with AMPS OnStar modules and could upgrade to Digital/CDMA OnStar modules.
If you put a Bluetooth Suburban 07+ VCIM into your car, and your car came from factory with an OnStar mirror… It should work.
Don’t buy that VCIM. 99.9% sure it won’t give you Bluetooth. And it’s 2x too expensive.
Again, assuming your car has an OnStar mirror, and it’s 2007 model year or later, you should just be able to drop a matching Bluetooth OnStar module in.
Good Afternoon Chris,
I have 09 cobalt SS, standard with Pioneer Sound System. It came with the standard aux only radio. I recently switched it out with a radio that came with the USB port. Part #20789373/UUI. My door chime is extremely loud now and I do not believe I can adjust it.
I am looking at the 2085360. Do you know if I will be able to adjust the chime on this?
With the radio off, hold down the sixth preset key for several seconds. It should allow you to toggle between Standard and Loud chime volumes – but this does not work on Delphi-built radios, which I’m pretty sure is what you installed.
The second part number you listed, 2085360 is not coming up for me. Can you double check it?
Holding the 6th bottom does not work. I believe all the Cobalt/G5 radios were Delphi. Is there a difference between the USB radios in cars that had the premium pioneer sound? I think this may be out of a car WITHOUT the premium sound. The part number on the radio I installed is 20789373.
The radio I installed is 20835360.
Correction to my previous post.
I installed radio 20789373.
I am looking to see if 20835360 will be the proper one to install.
I also noticed that my volume is way more loud. I only turn it up 1/4 of the way and it is comparable to 3/4 of the way on my old stereo.
The thing with Delphi’s especially is the calibration. Each UUI radio is calibrated to the stereo system of the car. This is a tiny firmware configuration file that is only supposed to be updated with the unit at a dealership.
The problem is when you swap radios, the MDI likely will balk because the wrong part number is in the car.
This is why I prefer Panasonic radios because they have the ability to turn down the door chimes via the 6th button, and they tend to be more versatile.
I’m starting to come to the conclusion that those Pioneer speakers in the Cobalt are so much more powerful that GM flashed the radio with a custom calibration. So you would be best with a UUI from a Pioneer Cobalt. That could be the right one, but I’m not sure.
It would also explain why every once in awhile someone with a Delphi swap complains that the stereo is much more quiet – it likely came from a Pioneer Cobalt.
Very interesting. I guess I need to figure out the correct part number for the stereo. My factory head unit was non usb. part number 25834575. I guess my next step is to find out if the 20835360 is one from a pioneer cobalt.
I believe all of these were Delphi headunits. Its unfortunate cause I had already got the headunit in my car programmed with the tech 2.
Come to think of it, you might actually want to go to the dealership and have them plug in to TIS2Web and see what speaker calibrations are available with the stereo you already have installed.
It’s possible, though unlikely, that TIS2Web might pop up a speaker calibration option for the Pioneer speakers. Then you could just flash that into the radio you have.
Hard part is convincing the dealer to spend the 10 minutes or so to jack in and not charge you an hour of labor.
You’d need a dealer to be willing to sit down and probe there – or a mechanic with a GM MDI/Tech2 passthrough and a TIS2Web subscription.
When we programmed this stereo, we did not see a option to change the door chime. We looked very briefly because I thought that you manually could adjust the chime. I will have to look into this.
I believe there is two different UUI USB radios. One for pioneer (20835360) and one with the pioneer system (20789373)
Both of those part numbers are for the ones with a black face plate. I believe that there would be two more part numbers for the ones that have a silver face plate also.
On the Delphi radios there is no door chime volume control. GM admitted this in a service bulletin. All the Panasonic built radios do have a Standard/Loud toggle (the 6th preset button when off).
The only option for changing the door chime is the TIS calibration. Which I’m still not sure if it can help you or not. I really need to borrow someone’s MID and TIS2Web account and probe around… someday.
I do not know when I will gain access to tech 2 again. I may stop up the dealership and see what they say. I had access to tech 2 from a buddy when I programmed this.
But from all the pictures I saw, it looks like the 20835360 is the version that came in the pioneer cars. I think I will try to get one of those and see if it will work.
So, a Tech 2 alone won’t let you change the calibrations or update firmware. All it will let you do is reset the radio so it pairs to your new VIN.
If you connect a Tech 2 to a dealership PC, and run TIS2Web in Tech 2 passthrough mode, that’s when you can access calibrations and firmware.
I’d consider getting the 2nd radio so that you can test this all at once though. There’s some plug and pray when you deal with niche units here – ran into that myself with the Solstice and Sky before I found the Panasonic was absolutely necessary on those.
Do you have a part number for the Panasonic version with the USB plug in? As far as screen and LED color is the Panasonic one the same?
If I can gain access to the tech two again, would a Panasonic radio program be the same? Will it work fine with my factory Pioneer sound system?
I bought a 2010 HHR LT new – it was missing the $100 UUI radio at the time, so no USB port (not that my wife would have known what to do with it). The car has been handed down to my two teens (first my son, now my daughter). I flirted with buying a used UUI radio for a while, but the days for saving media to your iPod or iPhone are long past, and my daughter (current driver) would get zero use out of this.
However the aftermarket CarPlay radios are getting inexpensive (Pioneer 1300NEX for $244 – not counting the expensive install parts) – so much that I think this will be one of her upcoming Xmas/Birthday presents. (she’s unlikely to be impressed until I install it and she starts using it). I would never consider a new car today without CarPlay/Android Auto).